T^;y} 4E This one seems to be an older mfg., very high quality lock action. Internet info = nothing so far, any help out there?? Finally, as a collector of antique weapons, I have to say that I would not like these marks to be omitted entirely. The first proof mark, which appears on all weapons produced in Italy since 1950, is a star within a wavy edged circle (I have seen this described as lands and grooves of rifling) above a crest in a shield. S/N 7171. 0000078548 00000 n Every lawbreaker we allow into our nation, or tolerate in our citizen population leads to the further escalation of law breaking of all kinds and acceptance of evil. The only marks are "NAVY ARMS CO" on the left side of the frame and on the barrel top flat, on the right side of the barrel "MADE IN ITALY" and the letters "GU" in script. This is not one of the standard Pedersoli or Pietta proof marks, nor is it a Uberti proof mark. e"GK((((JYWo b>G{9NLc>O4N&+ n2 I have one 4 revolving barrel handgun, percussion, double action, looks like 36 caliber. The proof house marks and manufacturing code are stamped elsewhere on the gun. 0000039418 00000 n r2 e< 1{Vk)} That's your build date. the one I have is in the 2,000 serial range. The collective knowledge of the members of this Forum, must total several hundred years. Aldo Uberti S.r.l. A little wear from use will fix that, or these could be deburred carefully by the owner. I have often heard it said, more than once by myself, that the markings on these guns could be a little more subtle, especially in the case of an attractive looking piece such as the Uberti Remington New Model army in charcoal blue and case hardened finish. Uberti Date Code | The Muzzleloading Forum It was not rust bluing, but looked close enough to it to satisfy us. Uberti offers versions of all three Colt Dragoon revolvers in their line-up and the one we have here is a standard civilian Second model. I understand a lot of Navy Arms guns were not made by Uberti but by other Italian companies. b` I"G3M9YCNxB5)f(1TVVA |7dZgM gBg >noPow l+zyU"^-0x5LH2O4~3z1RuYC.5,CJc38Z"(:o0IoJ(V-7Lvh{_.#DAh8 Italy started rather late with proofmarks, they started on december 30:th 1923 with a proof that was compulsory. 13) Were it not for the proof marks this Uberti could easily be passed off as an original Colt. The Remington ammo was balky on entering the chamber. With all finishes 100%. Also included is the origianal cardboard wood grain box and waxed wrapping paper. Looking at these 1860s point by point, we realized we were looking for a rifle that would trump Henrys Henry and it would be no easy task for the Uberti to take down the namesake 1860. 0000000016 00000 n 0000062843 00000 n The little button behind the loading lever had distinct stops every 90 degrees, a feature was missing from the previously tested version. On the top of the barrel, an inch in front of the rear sight, was "PATENT. The front sight was also identical in contour to the other rifle, and had a flat-topped blade insert of somewhat shiny metal. (Most are Zoli, and are good. ) The barrel and cylinder are the usual Uberti black rather than the blue of the originals and the finish is to a high standard, indicating good polishing before the finish was applied. Does it have proof marks? 1860 HENRY and the bottom tang held A. Behind that were two Italian proof marks. 0000001485 00000 n Enjoy the thrill of shooting a gun from the Old West and experience how history repeats itself. In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal parts for the revolvers and Uberti assembled them. H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} The Beretta family can trace their gunmaking roots in this region back almost five hundred years. If you wish to send some photographs to the magazine I'm sure they will forward them to me and I may be able to help you more. Uberti USA Quality Firearm Replicas | Uberti USA Replica Rifles and HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 "I'll help you down the trail and proud to!" Caliber looks like 45. Wayne, you do not say whether or not these pistols are held on a firearms certificate. Posted December 23, 2014. The Italian proof marks should have a rectangular or square box with a date code in it. What year would his have been made? All are very friendly, and if any of you have a problem with the way your weapon percolates, there will be at least a half dozen guys who have experienced the same problems, and they will be delighted to help with advice. Eho is the manufacturer ? 0000004123 00000 n Because I am an Amateur Historian, I carry for Self-Defense, one of three identical five and a half inch barreled, Remington 1858's, in a shoulder holster. Uberti/Colt Prototype Single Action Revolvers | Colt Forum I think it is a new Army 1858 but the Navy Arms on the top of barrel confuses me. I pray for all on the wire and all that I shoot with.After this last fight with cancer that my wife and GOD and all of you that prayed for her.Things change your outlook some. Yes, that can be confusing, but we did like the 1860 Henry by the Italian maker better than we did the namesake brands gun. 1) An example of a full set of Proof and makers marks on a Pedersoli pistol. 0000109981 00000 n Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. 0000057470 00000 n Each and every one of these guns must undergo testing at the Proof house and be stamped with the appropriate acceptance marks. thank you. I have always wanted one of my own so about 12 years ago I purchased a Uberti 1860 Henry and absolutely loved it! Same serial # is under grips on frame as on bottom of barrel. It was sold through Beeman's catalog in 1984. The right side of the frame is marked . There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. shooting, hunting, fishing, blacksmithing, CAS, Cars, Traveling I have a black powder 6 shot revolver with no serial numbers, proof marks or name of manufacturer or importer. In October 2016, I spotted another Uberti/Colt .44 Magnum on the Guns International web site (, No comments permitted but if you like Colt revolvers take a look. 0000013943 00000 n By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. 79 0 obj <>stream Full-stocked, 32 inch barreled rifles, as well as half-stocked, short-barreled carbines, were produced. -Ec]]`iBd[&QE~t|J3Wva64v0-uy6Owi.x1:y14y=l*^>rv^)eO>S^)zy^Qp.6CTZ=_"qU[f!=xKw2"+pMlb/}-g%0_/3LA0G#%gC_`uC/}uEpV:+kk But when you close the lever to the firing position, that round is not brought up into battery. Hello, I have a .36 caliber 1851 navy model with markings stating, black powder only made in Italy and the 3 Markings identifying the standardized proof house marks on the other side, but I cant find anywhere the markings of the Italian makers except for a marking that says HUBERTUS in a rectangular box, can you maybe give me some more info. 0000001338 00000 n This is the black powder mark and will be found only on black powder weapons. We also tried, but did not record, Remington factory ammo and some handloads. trailer To become a member $3 for one day $7 one month or $15 one year Click to join here. If you can send some pics of the guns and close ups of the marks to the magazine they should forward them to me and I may be able to help. 12) Pedersoli sometimes stamp their name on the inside of the lock. There are already a number of these fakes out there, just waiting for the unwary and uninformed, and there are those who would welcome the opportunity to provide even more. Uberti's first production gun was a Colt 1851 in 1959 so the date code would have been "XV". I have a .44 cal B/P pistol with an logo of s inside a hexagon inside a circle. Italian made cap and ball sixguns have a variety of markings that denote the year of manufacture, the proof houses where it was tested and the manufacturers . 0000006802 00000 n Derek Landers, I have one single shot black powder handgun, percussion, brass frame steel barrel. I have 1858 Remington in .36 cal and it has pr eie or rp eie Italy b1766 stamp on the bottom of the grip the other marking say it was made in 1972 I was wondering if any body might be able to tell me what company made it if they can email me at . I have a Uberti made .44 Mag. The sights were identical to those found on the Henry Henry, the rear having all the same little cuts, holes, notch contours, elevation slide and markings as on the other rifle. ASM puts that info on the bottom of the frame adjacent to the barrel lug when the datecodes were alpha characters in a rectangle. is 1350. If the pistol has no visible marks it is almost impossible to determine the manufacturer. 0000038657 00000 n Gun Review: The 1858 Remington Revolver :: Guns.com When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. fW5Zi|Fki"Mf4i{~9wY C [[8jD=z"ef ~ZckGWE(}vE|4 Copyright 2023 Aceville Publications Ltd. There were no other markings on the rifle. It will make a nice addition to any collection, especially as a companion gun to a rifle chambered for the same cartridge. Forged Steel Frame Colts & Remingtons from Uberti - The Firing Line I will always hold a special place in my heart for my great great grandfathers Newhaven Arms 1860 Henry, but my Henry Repeating Arms Co rifle will always hold second to that one hands down no contest. 1940 1953 IX 1966 XXII 1979 AE 1992 BB 2005 BZ 2018 CT. What others? Uberti's extensive line of traditional guns has established a long history of reliability. It is in the 2,000 serial range and has GU mark. However, the only proof mark I can find that looks like a 'house' proof is on the butt of the gun: a PR where the P and the R are overlapped, right next to the 3-digit serial #. I have a .50 cal rifle, nobody can tell me anything about this rifle. They were produced by Gregorelli and Uberti. Okiepan. Frascarelli. You need to take the buttstock off & look on the receiver. Very nice and very early production. The era of reproduction Western firearms began in the early 1950s when Val Forgett, of the American Navy Arms company, visited this area of Italy in search of a manufacturer who could make a copy of the Colt 1851 Navy revolver. 7) Mark on a recent Euroarms revolver. The main difference between Taylor's and Cimirron will be the Importer's Marks. Navy Arms Uberti replica Rolling Block .22 Hornet 9.5 Single-Shot Without photographs of all of the marks on the pistol it is difficult to identify - see my reply above. Italian proof mark is rather straight forward, normally one . The design was sold to the US Government, but it was never adopted for use by the military despite being a mechanically sound firearm. Could it be one of those? 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B Sights/ Optics:The front sight is a blade dovetailed to the muzzle end of the barrel. 35 0 obj <> endobj ITALY". OCT. 16. 0000013906 00000 n If you take the grips off there could be a mark on the brass underneath. A copy of a letter dated June 6, 1988 on the Aldo Uberti & Co. letterhead to Kevin Cherry (Cherrys, 2703 High Point Rd., Greensboro, NC 27403) showing the model (all are single action rev.), barrel length (4 , 5 , 7 and 10 inches) and caliber (.44 Mag., .22Conv., .22 LR and .22 CAL), and serial numbers of 65 revolvers. Other side says Palmer brescia Italy. 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